Hello, all,
I went to the Camp Butner Society museum yesterday. They have next to nothing on the engineers and were pleased to get the Company A photo. Maybe we can get them a Company C eventually. Gary, can you give me a list of the guys you've identified so far? They'd like to have the names to go with the photo.
Right now they have a lot in storage, with a few display items being in a small room. They're raising money to expand. They are collecting items specifically about Butner. However, they do have one campaign map for the 78th Infantry that lists the 303rd Engineers. I didn't take a photo of that. I do have a photo of one little mystery on a hand-made "pillowcase" (new term to me). The "Build - Fight - Destroy" motto sounds like a combat engineers unit, but I think I've found online that the 35th was an infantry division. I don't know how divisions were made up, but it seemed an odd motto for an entire division.
Another pillowcase is for engineers, but no battalion number.
I'll also took some photos of the blueprints for Camp Butner, if anyone is interested. They are not particularly clear, so I won't post them here. The entire place was built in 90 days by a private contractor. There was also a POW camp nearby.
At any rate, the museum is not currently worth going out of your way for, but it should be eventually.
Lisa
Incidentally... Lisa I would definitely be interested in the photos of the Butner blueprints. More interesting pieces to fill in the 292nd puzzle.
Gary
Hello, all,
I went to the Camp Butner Society museum yesterday. They have next to nothing on the engineers and were pleased to get the Company A photo. Maybe we can get them a Company C eventually. Gary, can you give me a list of the guys you've identified so far? They'd like to have the names to go with the photo.
Right now they have a lot in storage, with a few display items being in a small room. They're raising money to expand. They are collecting items specifically about Butner. However, they do have one campaign map for the 78th Infantry that lists the 303rd Engineers. I didn't take a photo of that. I do have a photo of one little mystery on a hand-made "pillowcase" (new term to me). The "Build - Fight - Destroy" motto sounds like a combat engineers unit, but I think I've found online that the 35th was an infantry division. I don't know how divisions were made up, but it seemed an odd motto for an entire division.
Another pillowcase is for engineers, but no battalion number.
I'll also took some photos of the blueprints for Camp Butner, if anyone is interested. They are not particularly clear, so I won't post them here. The entire place was built in 90 days by a private contractor. There was also a POW camp nearby.
At any rate, the museum is not currently worth going out of your way for, but it should be eventually.
Lisa
Lisa,
Here's a list and location of those that have been Identified on the A Company photo thus far for the folks at the Camp Butner Society:
Randall Gates is 7th from the left in Row 1
Sterling Sykes is 11th from the left in Row 2
Daniel Leasure is 16th from the left in Row 2
Earl Haughton is 2nd from the right in Row 2
Arthur Clark is 5th from the left in Row 4
Ralph Richardson is 10th from the left in Row 4
Leopold DeMello is 16th from the left in Row 4
That's it for now, but hopefully more to follow as identified. Randy and Lisa, tell me what you think about sending the C Company photo to Hampton House if it can be removed from the frame.
Gary
Agreed, Randy, about the C Company photo. If it can be removed from it's frame then maybe we can enlist Lisa and have it taken to Hampton House for scanning just like the A Company photo? They did such a great job in scanning and duplication that they came to mind. As for Ken's grandfather, I have a few possibilities that I have attached. Many of the faces start to look similar after looking at them for awhile.
Let me know what you think and hopefully Ken will log on and chime in.
Gary
The first photo may be him. I will print them out and take them to my grandmother and have her look. She knows better than most.
I have not had the chance to arrange for the photo to be sent to me, but I will be and if we can't by then we will once I get it.
Lisa,
Here's a list and location of those that have been Identified on the A Company photo thus far for the folks at the Camp Butner Society:
Randall Gates is 7th from the left in Row 1
Sterling Sykes is 11th from the left in Row 2
Daniel Leasure is 16th from the left in Row 2
Earl Haughton is 2nd from the right in Row 2
Arthur Clark is 5th from the left in Row 4
Ralph Richardson is 10th from the left in Row 4
Leopold DeMello is 16th from the left in Row 4
That's it for now, but hopefully more to follow as identified. Randy and Lisa, tell me what you think about sending the C Company photo to Hampton House if it can be removed from the frame.
Gary
Gary,
Are you able to cross reference any of the names I provided off photos to the company C photo?
Ken
Hello, all,
I went to the Camp Butner Society museum yesterday. They have next to nothing on the engineers and were pleased to get the Company A photo. Maybe we can get them a Company C eventually. Gary, can you give me a list of the guys you've identified so far? They'd like to have the names to go with the photo.
Right now they have a lot in storage, with a few display items being in a small room. They're raising money to expand. They are collecting items specifically about Butner. However, they do have one campaign map for the 78th Infantry that lists the 303rd Engineers. I didn't take a photo of that. I do have a photo of one little mystery on a hand-made "pillowcase" (new term to me). The "Build - Fight - Destroy" motto sounds like a combat engineers unit, but I think I've found online that the 35th was an infantry division. I don't know how divisions were made up, but it seemed an odd motto for an entire division.
Another pillowcase is for engineers, but no battalion number.
I'll also took some photos of the blueprints for Camp Butner, if anyone is interested. They are not particularly clear, so I won't post them here. The entire place was built in 90 days by a private contractor. There was also a POW camp nearby.
At any rate, the museum is not currently worth going out of your way for, but it should be eventually.
Lisa
Lisa,
Here's a list and location of those that have been Identified on the A Company photo thus far for the folks at the Camp Butner Society:
Randall Gates is 7th from the left in Row 1
Sterling Sykes is 11th from the left in Row 2
Daniel Leasure is 16th from the left in Row 2
Earl Haughton is 2nd from the right in Row 2
Arthur Clark is 5th from the left in Row 4
Ralph Richardson is 10th from the left in Row 4
Leopold DeMello is 16th from the left in Row 4
That's it for now, but hopefully more to follow as identified. Randy and Lisa, tell me what you think about sending the C Company photo to Hampton House if it can be removed from the frame.
Gary
The first photo may be him. I will print them out and take them to my grandmother and have her look. She knows better than most.
I have not had the chance to arrange for the photo to be sent to me, but I will be and if we can't by then we will once I get it.
Ken,
I was thinking that, also. I thought a good smile on the first guy and I think we'd definitely see even more of a similarity.
Gary
Gary,
Are you able to cross reference any of the names I provided off photos to the company C photo?
Ken
Ken,
I don't actually have the C Company photo... Randy bought it off of EBay and has it so until I am able to get a high res digital image of it maybe he can give this a try.
Later, good buddy!
Gary
Hello Lisa,
Warmest welcome to the forum! It is always exciting to me to meet another family member of a 292nd soldier. My grandfather, PFC Arthur A. Clark, was in company A of the 292nd. I have been doing some research on this unit for the last few years and have a lot that I can share with you. I have obtained from the NARA the unit histories, after action reports, and journals of the 292nd. I have copied a number of the morning reports of company A from the NPRC in St. Louis. According to one of the morning report documents I have your father-in-law, S/SGT Sterling C Sykes ASN# 34454730, was also a member of company A. I have attached a copy of this document below, sorry it is not that easy to see but you can understand because of the age. Your father-in-law's name is listed in the first column, 6th name down. You will notice my grandfather's name is listed just four names down from your father-in-law. As Marion has stated there is no problem posting your photos, and I as well as others are really looking forward to seeing them. I have photos to share as well. Hope to hear from you soon,
Randy Clark
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Randy,
Is there any way to have this any more legible to read the lower right column. Was trying to see if I could identify any of the men in my photos with the marching party list.
Thanks,
Ken
Ok everybody,
Here are the photos I have that have more than just my grandfather in them.
The most important photo is the group titled "This is 1st squad" It is labeled on the back (not in order of the photo) My grandfather is in the middle row in the center for frame of reference.
The labeling is top to bottom starting at: Will, Pagoria, Bateman, Lawrence, Herzie, Savill, Toot, Guthrie, Schemehorn, Kollman, Santer
There is one with you boxing with someone unidentified
There is one with him with a man with the last name Gardecki all bundled for winter.
There is one with him planning at Gosselies Belgium
There is a group photo that is unlabeled
There is one at the POW camp, not sure if any of you had any serve there as well but thought I would attach it.
There is one with him in a picture with Captain Moran and Staff Sergeant Kosmari (I think that is how it is spelled on the back) and it is at Camp 20 Grand.
I was able to identify a few off the back off of the 1st squad photo. My grandfather is in the middle row in the center for frame of reference (Anton Pagoria). The others names I identified beyond nicknames or possibly after the marching orders document were:
Ray Kollman
Ralph Bateman
Floyd Savill
John Guthrie
Maynard Toot
Forrest Will
Names I did not find were: Gardecki, Kosmari, Moran, Lawrence, Herzie, Schemehorn, and Santer.
I was able to identify a few off the back off of the 1st squad photo. My grandfather is in the middle row in the center for frame of reference (Anton Pagoria). The others names I identified beyond nicknames or possibly after the marching orders document were:
Ray Kollman
Ralph Bateman
Floyd Savill
John Guthrie
Maynard Toot
Forrest Will
Names I did not find were: Gardecki, Kosmari, Moran, Lawrence, Herzie, Schemehorn, and Santer.
Ok, sorry for the repost but figured one more out from the good conduct list that Randy posted Robert Herzig is Herzie....He was not in the marching orders list for Company A, Randy if you possibly posted the rest we may be able to figure out a few more. Esp. Kosmari and Moran since I have them pin pointed in photos.
Ken
Ok, sorry for the repost but figured one more out from the good conduct list that Randy posted Robert Herzig is Herzie....He was not in the marching orders list for Company A, Randy if you possibly posted the rest we may be able to figure out a few more. Esp. Kosmari and Moran since I have them pin pointed in photos.
Ken
No reason to be sorry, Ken! You are on a roll, my friend! Keep up the good work!
Gary