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CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Windhaus - 09-23-2008 Please access the site below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_Special_Operations_Wing
A paragraph describes the following:
The ground echelon of the 27th still in the Philippines was evacuated south from Luzon on 25 December to the Bataan Peninsula, arriving to form the 2nd Battalion (27th Bombardment Group) Provisional Infantry Regiment (Air Corp). For the 99 days following the attack on Pearl Harbor until their surrender to the Japanese after the Battle of Bataan, the men of the 27th BG became the only Air Force unit in history to fight as an infantry regiment, and were the only unit to be taken captive in whole. After surrendering, they were forced to endure the infamous Bataan Death March. Of the 880 or so Airmen who were taken, less than half survived captivity.
Attempting to determine of those participated in the Battle of the Philippines as an "infantry regiment" were awarded the Combat Infantry Badge? I am familiar with members of tank units that participated in the battle were.
I have been contacted by a Colonel, USAF, Retired requesting my assistance with the process to be awarded medals due, including the Purple Heart for mistreatment while in captivity.
Thank you, Robert E. Johnson CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Walt's Daughter - 09-23-2008 Hi Robert:
I was completely unaware of this, and so unfortunately I have nothing further at the moment.
An interesting story to say the least, and I'm sure this topic will get plenty of viewership.
Would love to hear from anyone with news regarding this. We look forward to your input.
CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - roque_riojas - 09-23-2008 MY VOTE WILL STILL BE WITH THE,,,, COMBAT ENGINEERS,,, THEY HAD MORE THAN FOUR TIMES IN COMBAT ZONES AND AT TIMES AHEAD OF THE COMBAT INFANTRY, CLEARING MINES MAKEING RIVER CROSSINGS ACCESSIBLE. ALL CARRIED WEAPONS. BUT THEY ARE CLASIFIED AS ENGINEERS NOT INFANTRYCOMBAT. I AM JUST AN OLD DOGFACE WITH OVER 600 DAYS COMBAT AND I THANK THE COMBAT ENGINEER FOR WHATTHEY DID. DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PACIFIC THEATER AS I WAS IN NO. AFRICA AND ITALY. PLEASE I AM NOT TAKING AWAY WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND MOSTLY THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH !!
I DON'T THINK THE JAPS WILL EVER SAY, SORRY?? HELL NO------------ROCKY 34TH INF. DIVN.--- CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Jeeper704 - 09-24-2008
Hopefully, this may be of some help.
Erwin CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - j3rdinf - 09-26-2008 If their MOS was changed to Infantry as required by CIB regulations and they were in a Provisional Infantry unit I see no problem in them recieving the CIB. CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Robersabel - 09-27-2008
I thought it was established in a different thread that Circular 269, dated 27 October 1943 did not require an infantryman's MOS to be eligible for the CIB?
3. Combat Infantry Badge.—Infantrymen, including officers, establish eligibility to wear the Combat Infantryman Badge by— Exemplary conduct in action against the enemy, or By satisfactory performance of duty in action against the enemy in a major operation as determined and announced by the theater commander.
Furthermore, airmen of the regiment were awarded the BSM "for meritorious achievement while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force from 7 Dec. 1941 - 10 May 1942."
Served is the key word...airmen served with the U.S. Army Infantry on Bataan.
Robert CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - twobisquit - 09-28-2008 Robersable... This is the Army's answer to "serving as" infantry, asof about4 months ago. I think the AAF thing is a slap in the face to the Engineers...JMHO Chris
Oh, and welcome to the site CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Robersabel - 10-05-2008 Sgt. Kermit Lay, left the Horse Cavalry and re-enlisted as Private in the Aviation Ordnance. A month later they were ordered to the Philippines, arriving at Nichols Field 45 days before the outbreak of World War II. On the 8th of December 1941 the Japanese destroyed all the planes on the ground. On 24th of December Gen. MacArthur declared Manila an open city and ordered all troops to Bataan.
Air Corps units were issued Springfield rifles and were named Provisional Air Corps Infantry. Kermit received a battlefield commission as 2nd Lieutenant, Infantry, 25th January, 1942 and has the distinction of being the only private to do so. He made the Bataan Death March and was a prisoner of war for 3-1/2 years.
Kermit retired from the Army as a Captain in 1951. He was awarded and received many medals for his duties while serving his country including the Silver Star, the Bronze Star w/ Cluster, the Purple Heart w/ Cluster, the POW Medal, the Combat Infantry Badge, the WW II Victory Medal, the Good Conduct Medal, the Presidential Unit Citation w/2 Oak Leaf Clusters, the Philippine Unit Citation, the American Defense Medal w/ Star, the Asiatic Pacific Theater Medal w/ 2 Stars, and many more.
Robert CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - Robersabel - 11-29-2008 Continue to discover airman awarded the CIB assigned to the First Provional Air Corps Regiment, II Corps consisting of two battalions of AAF personnel fought in the Battle of the Philippines.
Eager to learn answer to the letter of Major General Truscott Jr. requesting language of Circular #186 include members of the 36th Engineer Combat Regiment.
Robert Robersabel@aol.com CIB Authorized To USAAF Personnel? - roque_riojas - 11-29-2008
That Sgt. Kermit Lay reminds me of Audie Murphy with all those medals. Rocky |