Camp near Siegberg Germany?

[Jean Jacobson]

Larry, I love seeing your picture and Dad's together!

 

Now again Thank You for all of your great and fascinating research!. I would imagine it would take way more than a whole 3 day weekend to come up with what you did!

 

I am curious about the logistics of how the German's handled the front line aid stations and then what they did after that and who determined it and how did they know if there was space available etc. What logistical complexities had to be solved! And then the emotional side in battle of being a German and wounding someone and then also telling the wounded man that you will be back to get him - even if it takes a day or 2 and then really doing it. Pretty spectacular!

 

Your research brings us closer to seeing an overall German hospital system. We know the German's were not planning on being overrun so at some point they had to piece this together I would assume. I know in a Village in the Hurtgen Forest area there remains a home that has a Hospital Museum in its basement/bottom floor. It was used as a hospital for I assume only Germans. I do not know the dates of when it became a hospital.

 

I will work on magnifying your maps Larry.

 

I looked at all of the names on your list.

 

Barlow is on the Stolz Cemetery list , although separated from the other names. He is not on the 2 lists I have of supposedly Stalag 6 G prisoners. At least one of those lists is provided by Christoph, somewhere above and maybe the other list too.

 

Keenan - not on my 2 lists or Cemetery list.

 

Briggs, John - not on my 2 lists or Cemetery list. Note Mary refers to a Briggs but the one on my lists is Daniel B.

 

McGinnis - not on my 2 lists or Cemetery list.

 

Butler shows being liberated on my list that has that info. And Butler is on my other list. And Butler is not on the Cemetery list.

 

Campbell is on the Cemetery list.

 

Culik is on the Cemetery list.

 

Wade is on the Cemetery list.

 

Westgate is on the Cemetery list.

 

Boyette is not on either list or the Cemetery list.

 

Coleman not on either list.and from now on assume not on the Cemetery list as well.

 

Eigelbach not on either list.

 

Fulton not on either list BUT ON CHRISTOPH'S Red Cross Report.

 

Gaulesky not on either list

 

Hix not on either list

 

Lesmer not on either list

 

McKown not on either list

 

And while not one of the names you provided Larry - it is interesting to note that Mary's Dad, Walter Brinegar, is not on my 2 lists!

 

Fascinating!!!

 

I close with something one wounded Ex POW told me, " I am alive because of the humanity of the German soldiers."

 

Jean

[Christoph]

I think those who were in Münstereifel will not show up in the Siegburg lists.

William Gaulesky passed away: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=40282751&ref=wvr

George M Fulton too: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=29874404&ref=wvr

 

Also interesting: Your father is not on These lists, but I found him on one of STALAG VIG in Bonn: http://www.ww2pow.info/index.php?page=camps&cmp=Stalag+6g+Bonn+Rheinland+Prussia+50+07&p=1

 

Christoph

 

Did we have this list before? I'm not shure. Some known names on it: Dryden Geraghty...

[SonofaMP]

Jean it took the whole 3 day weekend just to go thru the posts to figure out what i had to look for & develop a search plan. What i`ve found so far only took a couple hours.

I like to take things one step at a time, it gets too confuzing if we jump around from one part of the puzzle to another.

[Jean Jacobson]

Good Morning!

 

Larry, You are right. And still intimidated - but yes, a little less so.

 

Christoph, yes, the Bonn list is what you had posted - the one with Dad, Robert T. and the others on it. I had another one that was like it but with a different column of info. I came to your conclusion after going through Larry's great discovery - and that is the men on your list are not going to be on the new Larry list and vice versa.

 

Sad to see Fulton is deceased as well as the other gentleman. When they have been gone that long it seems unlikely that family members will have stories or papers, but then who knows. I must remind myself of that when I think of Robert T. and what the family possessed and that was from 1945. Fulton should have such an interesting story because he was there so early....

 

And speaking of Robert T - the family is researching that piece of info that I sent them on the probable place of his wound and capture - Meijel, Holland. It appears that maybe the 7th Armored Division was there. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it gets figured out.

 

Thank You guys!

 

Still have not gotten recent notes organized and now must work on non War stuff and so hard to stop doing this!..

 

Jean

 

Jean

[Jean Jacobson]

Larry,

 

Your research is off the charts!!!!!!!!!!! And you are truly AMAZING!

 

And no wonder I was, and still am - even more so now, intimidated by you!

 

That Missouri National Guard outfit was such a confusing thing to follow - and impossible to figure out! But somehow, the Wizard Larry did!

 

It may take me a while but I want to send you some documents that will prove you RIGHT On and Rocking!

 

Please don't leave this Forum - I mean it is okay for you to go out, eat, live etc - but remember we waited a long time for you!

 

Heading out and very grateful to you,

Jean

[SonofaMP]

there are 2 accounts of CCA, 13th Armored liberating a POW camp on 12 April 1945. According to the accounts, this camp was northwest of Lohmar between Lohmar & Rath.

There is another account of the 309th Infantry Reg liberating another camp, but i`ll post that one when i find it again.

 

[Christoph]

Larry, how and where do you find such things? I have been searching for any information about that camp two years ago, but haven't seen These before. This camp was Stalag VI G Arb-Kdo 281 at Hoffnungsthal. Victor Delnore's daughter Patricia Delnore Magee has published her father's letters home, "Victor's war", Marion was so Kind to organise it for me. He wrote nearly every day, but for example on that 12 April 1945 not about liberating 1400 allied soldiers but about loving his wife and son and missing those lazy Sundays when he used just sitting around and listening to the Radio.

 

Christoph

[Jean Jacobson]

Larry, You are Beyond Extraordinary!!!!!!! There is not enough room here for all the words of praise that you deserve!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I have forwarded everything you sent me to Robert's family, Christoph, and Marge over at the 35th Div. Assoc. Marge started helping me when I thought Robert was in her Division.

 

I don't dare ask what you did for a living - but surely everyone wanted you working with and for them!

 

Unless the families of the Veterans I research take on that next level of research - I know I can not get back to do it possibly for many years! This is so amazing. And Robert's has to be one of the worst to figure out because not only was he a Replacement but he was all over the place.

 

You are a GENIUS!!!!!!

 

And yes, more intimidated than ever,

Jean

[SonofaMP]

I found LT Alfred D Sensenbach`s account of being captured near St, Vith, Belgium 21 Sept `44 & his journey to Stalag VI G in Bonn and staying for 5 months before being sent to another camp.

It`s from the book "Front Line Surgeons: A History of the Third Auxiliary Surgical Group", by Clifford L Graves.

its in a large .pdf file, almost 200MG.

Lt Sensenbach`s story starts on page 212 & there are 8 pages in the account.

If you want to read the file online or download it go here:

 

http://archive.org/details/FrontLineSurgeons

 

I`ll just post the 2 pages describing the location of Stalag VI G and the bombing of the hospital, evacuated to Siegborg, then to Limburg. He says the hospital he was at was in Bonn on the west side of the Rhine.

 

1st Lt. Alfred D. Sensenbach MAC

Sergeant Loren R. Mullison

T/4 Luis C. Hultine

These three men disappeared on a journey for the delivery of pay. They were last seen at 0900 21 September near Bastogne, Belgium. No trace has been found of them or their car. [Editor’s Note: The three were captured by the Germans and were POWs for the remainder of the war.]

 

 

 

[Jean Jacobson]

Larry, You are Awesome! But you have to know that! And today, I am less intimidated and more, well, just happy to be writing you and able to say THANK YOU!!!!!

 

I did print out and read the copy of the section of the book that you referred to above. How incredible that you found this book. Once I get it bound - I will go to Kinko's and then be able to read it in its entirety.

 

When I can, in next couple of days, I will go through my notes, and see if I have a time frame for when Stalag 6G at Bonn was basically burned down and how it ties into the story in the above book. I know the one guy and group that he was with actually went to the Abbey for the few day temporary stay. The group above appears to have gone to a factory in Siegburg. And then there is this other gentleman whose notes I will go through.

 

Fascinating! And the research you are helping me with and doing on the deceased Siegburg gentleman - is off the charts!!!!! I can not Thank You enough! And to think you figured out the details - more on that later!

 

From a Very Grateful and Honored to Know You,

 

Jean J