Hi,

I have been searching for a song that my dad ( a WWll veteran) used to sing. A line from it was: The navigator, the navigator, he’ll get you there and back. If you want to go to Tokyo or the Road to Mandalay, who’ll show you the way, the navigator”

I cannot locate it anywhere. Do you know it?

Thanks in advance,

Gerri Schmidt

Jim H sent this to me.

Many are already aware of this site, and yes, we do have links to it too. But below is a newsletter...

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Korean War Project Newsletter May 30, 2011 Volume 13, 1

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From: Hal and Ted Barker: koreanwar.org

For: Jim Hennessey

Table of Contents:

1. Editorial

2. This Mailing List (Join or Leave)

3. Our Newsletter

4. Bookstore | Film

5. Membership

6. New: Site Search Tool

7. Looking For | BBS | Remembrance

8. New: War Diaries and Command Reports

9. Maps on the Korean War Project

10. New: 60th Anniversary Center

11. POW/MIA Repatriations

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1. Editorial

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We would like to extend a group hello to all of our website visitors or

email correspondents. Many of you are brand new to our website and we

encourage you to browse all areas.

Hal and I share our thoughts today as the Korean War Project continues

to Remember the sacrifices of all those who have served or paid the

ultimate cost of such service.

Hal and Ted Barker

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2. This Mailing List (going to 44,000 + persons)

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We began sending this newsletter mailing in December of 1998. The first

issue went to just over 2000 persons.

This list is a private list for our visitors and members. A person may

join or leave the list at will. It is compiled from our Guest Book and

comprises public service messages of general interest to veterans and

families.

To join or leave the list: email to: Ted Barker tbarker@kwp.org

Place: Subscribe or Unsubscribe in the subject line.

Consider forwarding the Newsletter to your friends by email or print.

Word of mouth is how we grow.

Thanks to all who have made this newsletter and the website possible!

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3. Our Newsletter

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Many of our visitors have commented upon not receiving our email news. A

change in policies with all the service providers to choke down mass

email has resulted in most of our attempts being blocked or shunted to

unwanted mail folders.

The KWP ran into problems with the October 28, 2008 delivery attempt.

To prevent the possibility of this version becoming interrupted, no web

links will be inserted. Those links have proven to be problematic as

many of you have personally experienced.

All new versions of our newsletters or spot news will be in our 60th

Anniversary Commemoration Center. That section is on the main page of

the website.

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4. Bookstore | Film

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We have several book additions to feature on the site. Films will

continue to be featured and TV shows announced.

Check your PBS listings for airing of Hold At All Costs, a film about

Outpost Harry, June of 1953. The initial airing is Memorial Day 2011.

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From Jack Morris, our first Recollections author:

28 March 2011

Ted,

I just posted on Amazon by way of an eBook an expanded diary of my

months in Korea during the that war.

It is displayed on Amazon eBooks at: MY WAR: KOREA - A Diary. It can be

reached by calling up my name, Jack Morris.

Note: Jack was a member of the 363rd Recon Tech Squadron, based at K-2

in the winter of 1950. See his story in our Recollections area.

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5. Membership/ Sponsors

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Consider supporting the mission of the Korean War Project by donations

in the form of Membership/Sponsorship

Visit our Membership page where you may select how to help out

On that page is a link to our PayPal account. You may choose online or

regular surface mail to support our efforts.

Our Pledge Drive is an ongoing process. Many of our previous donors no

longer can assist. We are recruiting from those who have not

participated, so if you can, jump on in, it will be appreciated.

The site is free for all to use and those who participate help to ensure

that we remain online whether the donation is $1.00 or more!

For those persons or groups who cannot participate, we certainly

understand.

Donations/Memberships are tax deductible, if you use long form IRS

reports. Our EIN: 75-2695041 501© (3)

Postal Address

Korean War Project

PO Box 180190

Dallas, TX 75218

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6. New: Site Search Tool

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This tool has been requested by all visitors since 1999. Older versions

were capable of being compromised by hackers, so we removed them from

the site. We are pleased to have this valuable tool. Thanks go to

Google for creating the tool.

Location: on our Main Splash Page on koreanwar.org, right under the

black and white "I Remember Korea" graphic is a graphic called "Search

by Google".

How to use: click the text link or Info link.

How to Search: type in your topic and click Search.

Tip: try using quote marks around your term to narrow results.

Navigating results: click the links to the pages offered.

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7. Looking For | BBS | Remembrance

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The message areas on our site continue to be busy with messages being

sent out via those sections on a daily basis.

Reunions continue to be posted but we would really appreciate all the

reunions for any unit of US or other NATO Allies to be posted.

Connections continue to be made from postings made at the beginning of

the life of the website in February of 1995.

We are receiving photographs for posting on our Remembrance section for

the killed and missing from Korea. New photos arrive almost daily.

Many thanks are extended to all who have participated in keeping the

lives of these men fresh in our memories.

Note: for those of you who have sent or tried to send messages in

response to a posting on the site but have "not" received an answer:

Feel free to send email to us as we may have street addresses or phone

numbers.

Remember, the KWP had to cover up the details of our visitors locations

due to past abuses by abusive outside scam artists.

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8. Military records New: War Diaries and Command Reports

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The KWP is proud to announce the procurement of US Marine 1st Division

and 1st Air Wing Unit War Diaries and Command Summaries for 1950-53.

These are being prepared for internet use by our visitors. 800 files

are almost ready for use.

Other similar records for Army units like the 2nd Infantry Division,

24th, 25th and 7th Infantry Division are in various states of

acquisition. We are actually waiting to hear from the Defense Department

on a FOIA - Freedom of Information Request for the 24th, 25th and 7th

Divisions.

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9. Maps on the Korean War Project

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Please remember that we have a huge inventory of maps of the wartime

period, most have the actual grid coordinates so a person may plot a

location of interest. Hal reports over 800 maps now online!

DMZ era USFK veterans will also find those maps of great value.

Most of these maps have been placed on Google Earth where anyone may

zoom in and out to see the actual terrain. Your computer must have a

graphic card that will support Google Earth. So, if you are not able to

render the maps, the issue is most likely your computer.

Hal has plotted about 2500 individual unit and/or battle locations for

ground operations. His next phase is to mark Naval Fleet activity with

locations taken from the histories we have on hand.

Since last writing about maps in June of 2010, Naval/Marine Operations

have been added. More of these are underway.

Still on the drawing board are Air Force tactical missons.

Tip: copy any of the maps to your PC, take the file to your local copy

company and have them print out in large format.

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10.New: 60th Anniversary Center at KWP Anniversary Center

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This section is for all things related to news or information for our

visitors.

Newspaper article links, Press Releases, blogs, social media to include

Twitter and Facebook.

This area complements our Reunions and Associations sections on the

site.

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11. POW/MIA Repatriations

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There has been an increased number of remains identified at the lab in

Hawaii, JPAC-CIL. The KWP gets regular notice of family notification and

burial plans. Hal and Ted attended the Dallas funeral for Joseph Allen

Terrell at the DFW National Cemetery.

The Patriot Guard Riders provided escort along with a large contingent

of escorts from Fort Hood and a large Honor Guard Rifle Team as well as

casualty staff from Army Mortuary.

Joseph was a member of th 8th Cavalry Regiment, L Company. He was

declared Missing after the Unsan battle in North Korea,

during the first days of November, 1950.

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Thanks to all who have made this newsletter and the website possible!

Donors: www.koreanwar.org/html/membership.html

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Hal and Ted Barker

The following was sent to me this week....

In recognition of Memorial Day 2011, we received several Vietnam War Facts emails such as the one below. They were all well documented, and with highly recognized sources that included President Nixon's Papers, General William C. Westmoreland, Lieutenant General Barry R. McCaffrey, CACF (Combat Area Casualty File), VHPA 1993 (Vietnam Helicopter Pilot's Association), plus others...

We have permission to send the following to our database for The Jerseyman.

Tom

Thomas H. Helvig, CTRCM, USN (Retired 1953-1975)

Volunteer Writer/Editor The Jerseyman

Vietnam War: Facts, Stats & Myths

Credit: Capt. Marshal Hanson, USNR (Ret.)

and Capt. Scott Beaton, Statistical Source

9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the official Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975.

2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam.

Vietnam Veterans represented 9.7% of their generation.

240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War.

The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1961. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.

58,148 were killed in Vietnam.

75,000 were severely disabled.

23,214 were 100% disabled.

5,283 lost limbs.

1,081 sustained multiple amputations.

Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21.

11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old.

Of those killed, 17,539 were married.

Average age of men killed: 23.1 years.

Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.

The oldest man killed was 62 years old.

As of January 15, 2004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War.

97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged.

91% of Vietnam Veterans say they are glad they served.

74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.

Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups.

Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.

87% of Americans hold Vietnam Veterans in high esteem.

There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group

(Source: Veterans Administration Study).

Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.

85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian life.

Common Myths Dispelled:

Myth: Common belief is that most Vietnam veterans were drafted.

Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers.

Myth: The media have reported that suicides among Vietnam veterans range from 50,000 to 100,000 - 6 to 11 times the non-Vietnam veteran population.

Fact: Mortality studies show that 9,000 is a better estimate. "The CDC Vietnam Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during the first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7 times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans. After that initial post-service period, Vietnam veterans were no more likely to die from suicide than non-Vietnam veterans. In fact, after the 5-year post-service period, the rate of suicides is less in the Vietnam veterans' group.

Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of blacks were killed in the Vietnam War.

Fact: 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley Butler, in their recently published book "All That We Can Be," said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used like cannon fodder during Vietnam "and can report definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia, a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war."

Myth: Common belief is that the war was fought largely by the poor and uneducated.

Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent into combat. 79% had a high school education or better.

Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman fighting in Vietnam was 19.

Fact: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.

Myth: The common belief is that the domino theory was proved false.

Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America's commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.

Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was not as intense as in World War II.

Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II. 75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000 missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were American). The average time lapse between wounding to hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24 hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border).

Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972 (shown a million times on American television) was burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang.

Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. Recent reports in the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. "We (Americans) had nothing to do with controlling VNAF," according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc's brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim's cousins not her brothers.

Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam.

Fact: The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance.

General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike (a professor at the University of California, Berkeley), a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.

Statistics from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF) as of November 1993 (the CACF is the basis for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, aka The Wall)

Average age of 58,148 killed in Vietnam was 23.11 years (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action).

Deaths Average Age

Total: 58,148 - 23.11 years

Enlisted: 50,274 - 22.37 years

Officers: 6,598 - 28.43 years

Warrants: 1,276 - 24.73 years

E1 525 - 20.34 years

11B MOS: 18,465 - 22.55 years

Interesting Census Stats and "Been There" Wanabees:

1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August, 1995 (census figures).

During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958.

As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day. During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE VIETNAM VETS ARE NOT.

The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this errored index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).

Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers.

The United States Did Not Lose The War In Vietnam, The South Vietnamese Did. Read On...

The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.

How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 than there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations and torture visited upon Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians goes mainly to the American media and their undying support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the United States.

As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported, the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous.

If you have a few minutes and a box of tissues check this out: http://www.koreanwar.org/html/letters_to_the_lost.html

People were asked to write and submit a letter to someone that was lost because of the Korean War.

Hello everyone, I wanted to share with you this find!

310th Combat Engineer story

Most of you have probably already seen this page, but I am sure that you have not seen one of the bridges is talking about!

You see where he speaks of bailey bridges north of Borgo di Bisano? Well, this bridge still exists, and is still used! In July I will organize a reenactment event in Bisano and we will do some photo reconstruction, with the bridge! Meanwhile, however, this afternoon I do some photos, so I'll show you!

It is not a great news, but it's nice to see how a piece of history is still present today at the eyes of all and almost no one knows what it is, here in Italy

Enry